I was a guest on Karl Ortmanns’ Revenue Problem Solvers podcast this fall. We’d finished recording and were saying goodbye when Karl handed me a line I’ve been thinking about.

“If you’re the smartest person in the room, well, the room still captures it.”

He meant the room is smarter than anyone in it, and whatever you know is already part of that. It’s a long-standing insight about the power of team, he just put it in the context of getting there with better trust skills.

I told him I was stealing it. He said he hoped I would.

It goes right at a fear a lot of smart people carry into client meetings. Hired for what you know. So if you don’t say it, and say it fast, maybe it doesn’t count.

It counts. Your experience and the pattern you spotted in the first two minutes stay in the room whether you say them first or fourth. What the room can’t capture is the client’s half, because that only shows up if you leave space for it and work at winning the question.

Take one: answering first

Partway through the episode we ran a live role play. It’s one of my favorite ways to demonstrate the value of seeing and doing trust skills. As always, I played Scott from 30 years ago, the ambitious asshole. Then I played Scott today, working hard on his trust skills.

Karl picked a leadership problem: someone on his team was underperforming and tension was building. My first response was to interrupt his problem outline and say “Yeah, I get that” and “I’ve seen that all before.” A few sentences in, I stopped him. I have done it a million times in past client conversations. The urge is to help, because you quickly see the pattern.

“Let me interrupt you right there. It’s not nearly as hard as you think it is.” Then I handed him the fix. More communication, write more things down, give direct orders.

It wasn’t a terrible answer. People who prescribe before they diagnose are right a lot of the time. In my experience they are right something like seven times out of ten.

But Karl’s body language changed unconsciously. When we stopped the take, he said I’d cut him off more than once and he never got to the part that mattered. He’d already decided to make a change on the team. I was answering a question he wasn’t asking. I was not winning the question, I was rushing to win the answer.

Take two: asking first

Same scenario. This time I let him finish. I said back what I’d heard, then asked what I wasn’t understanding yet, because it sounded harder than he’d described. I was sensing the feelings behind his statement.

It was harder. The decision was already made. What Karl was wrestling with was everything around it: revenue, keeping the rest of the team from walking, and getting the contract and HR side right.

That’s a whole different conversation. A whole lot more trust. And I hadn’t given him one piece of advice yet.

Karl named the difference himself: “Your tone changed, your body language changed, and you allowed the context to come out.”

Why answering first costs so much

Your knowledge doesn’t leave the room when you wait. The client’s second and third thought do. If you jump in, you stop them from getting there.

Here is the big insight, clients tell you hard things in stages. The surface version comes first. If you work to leave room, and they’ll pause and try again to explain it better. Sometimes there’s even a third pass. But if you jump in after the first one and you’ve built your answer on the easy part.

There’s simple math under this. Everything you bring (credibility, reliability, how well you know the client) gets divided by how much the conversation is about you. That divisor has a name, self-orientation. Karl’s line takes care of the top of the fraction, so the work is all on the bottom.

On a client call, answering first sounds friendly and helpful. “Yeah, we’ve seen this before.” “Totally, here’s what we’d do.” Confident, and often right. And the client stops at the surface version, because you’ve told them you already have it.

Try this in your next client conversation

The first trust skill is Ask, Don’t Answer, and it starts small. Three plain questions, used over and over in the same conversation:

• Tell me more.

• How would that work?

• What do you think?

I promised Karl’s listeners that whoever they’re talking to will think they’re smarter. And I can make the same promise to you. It works. It’s like magic. And it’s not hard to do once you see it in action. You just have to remind yourself before every client conversation to do it.

Then keep score. Count the questions you ask before you say “we can help with that” or “here’s what I’d do.” If it’s under three, the client likely doesn’t believe you understand the problem yet. You might. They can’t tell.

If you lead a team, sit in on a client call and keep the count for someone else. It’s the fastest way I know to show a smart person how often they answer first. And when your people stop having every answer ready, clients start bringing them their problems. Not just bringing them to you.

Listen to the episode

Karl’s full episode is on Revenue Problem Solvers. The role play starts about halfway through.

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